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Hemen değil, ama yakında yol bisikletimi yenileme düşüncem var. Şu anda bu forumdan aldığım '95 model, Japon malı bir Koga-Miyata kullanıyorum. cromoly gövde, Sora sti kollu, tiagra arka ve orta vitesli, campag aynakollu ve frenli, Shimano whr-50 jantlı... ilk yol bisikletim ve ona oldukça alıştım. Ağır ama sürüşü oldukça zevkli ve güvenli. Aerobar olmadan 70.2 km'ye kadar çıktığım oldu.
Bisikletin benim için geçici bir heves olup olmadığından emin olmak için sıfır yerine 2. el almaya karar vermiştim. İstediğim sıklıkta olmasa da 1 yıldan fazla süredir kullanıyorum ve yakında onunla bir triatlona katılmayı düşünüyorum.
İşte o triatlondan sonra kendime yeni bir bisiklet almaya hak kazanacağım, kendimce öyle bir ön şart koşmuştum uzun süre önce.
Düşüncem ve arzum, aluminyum kadroyu es geçip ulaşılabilir bir karbon kadrolu bisiklet almak. Doğrusu aluminyum kadroyla vakit geçirmeden karbon dünyasına biran evvel adım atmak istiyorum.
Bu kararıma da emektar bisikletimin yeni modelleri neden oldu. KOGA'nın bir modeli, avrupadaki fiyatıyla zor da olsa ulaşılabilir gözüktü. Sonrasında net'te hakkında yorumlar ararken hemen hemen aynı fiyatlarda 4 alternatif daha ortaya çıktı.
Tecrübeli bisikletçi dostlara sormak isterim:
- KOGA bisikletler hakkında tecrübesi olan var mı? Aşağıda resmini ve modelini vereceğim KOGA hakkında ne düşünürsünüz? Şu anda da Koga kullandığımdan duygusal olarak ona daha yakınım ama gerçekçi yorumlarınıza da ihtiyacım var.
- Siz bu bisikletlerden hangisini tercih ederdiniz?
1- TREK MADONE 4.5T - 1.965 € - 8,5kg.
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-trek-madone-4-5t.jpg
Brakes: Shimano Tiagra w/ Shimano 105 STI Levers
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano 105 12-27, 10 speed
Crankset: Shimano R-553 50/39/30Â Â
Forks: Bontrager Race Lite, Carbon w/ E2 Aluminum Steerer
Frame: TCT Carbon, DuoTrap Compatible
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105
Gear Levers: Shimano 105 STI, 10 speed
Handlebar: Bontrager SSR VR, 31.8mm
Headset: Aheadset w/ cartridge bearings, integrated, sealed, alloy, 1.5" Bottom
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Saddle: Bontrager Inform R1
Seat Post: Bontrager Carbon
Stem: Bontrager Race Lite, 7degree, 31.8mm
Tyres: Bontrager Race Lite 700x23c
Wheels: Bontrager SSR
2- SPECIALIZED ROUBAIX ELITE - 2.055 € - 8,94 kg (56cm)
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-specialized-roubaix-elite.jpg
Frame: Specialized Roubaix FACT 7r carbon, triple monocoque construction, compact race design with Zertz inserts
Fork: Roubaix full carbon monocoque, with Zertz inserts
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Shifters: Shimano 105 STI, flight deck compatible
Chainset: Shimano FC-R600
Chainrings: 50/34 tooth chainrings
Bottom Bracket: With Crankset
Cassette: Shimano 105 10-speed, 12-27 tooth range
Chain: KMC X10 CP
Pedals: Silver cage/black body, with black toe clips and strap
Front Brake: Arch design, cold forged dual pivot with cartridge pads
Rear Brake: Arch design, cold forged dual pivot with cartridge pads
Brake Levers: Shimano 105 STI, flight deck compatible
Handlebars: Specialized Comp Ergo, 6061 alloy
Stem: Specialized Comp-Set, 3D forged alloy, 4-position adjustable, 4-bolt 31.8mm clamp
Headset: Alloy, 1-1/8 - 1-3/8 inch, with 20mm of spacers
Grips: Specialized S-Wrap, cork ribbon with 2.5 gel pads
Rims: Mavic CXP-22 S, aluminium triple-wall, sleeve joint, CNC machined sidewalls, with eyelets
Front Hub: Forged alloy, sealed, 28h for J bend round spokes
Rear Hub: Forged alloy, sealed for J bend round spokes, 32h
Spokes: Stainless 14g
Front Tyre: Specialized Roubaix Pro II, 700x23c, Kevlar bead, 120TPI, with Flak Jacket protection
Rear Tyre: Specialized Roubaix Pro II, 700x23c, Kevlar bead, 120TPI, with Flak Jacket protection
Tubes: Standard presta valve
Saddle: Body Geometry Avatar Gel with hollow Cr-Mo rails
Seatpost: Specialized Comp, FACT carbon with Zertz insert, aluminium head, two-bolt clamp, 27.2mm
Seat Binder: Alloy, 32.6mm clamp
Accessories: Carbon chain stay protector, derailleur hanger, clear coat, owners manual
3- CUBE AGREE GTC PRO - 1.935 € - 7.9kg
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-cube-agree-gtc-pro.jpg
Brakes: FSA Gossamer
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano Ultegra CS-6700 11-28, 10-speed
Chain: Shimano Ultegra CN-6700
Crankset: FSA Gossamer Pro Megaexo 53x39, Press-Fit BB
Forks: Easton EC70 SL CNT Carbon 1 1/8“ - 1 1/2“
Frame: GTC Monocoque Advanced Twin Mold Technology
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6700BL 2-speed, Clamp 34.9mm
Gear Levers: Shimano Ultegra ST-6700, 10-speed
Handlebar: FSA Wing Compact Oversized
Headset: FSA Orbit I-T
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra RD-6700SS
Saddle: RFR Natural Shape 0.1 R
Seat Clamp: Scape Close 34.9mm
Seat Post: FSA SL280 31.6mm
Stem: FSA OS190 Oversized
Tape/Grips: CUBE Grip Control
Tubes: Impac RR SV15
Tyres: Schwalbe Ultremo 23x622
Wheels: Fulcrum Racing 7
4- FELT Z5 - 1.995 € - 8,25kg (56cm)
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-felt-z5.jpg
Frame: Felt Classic Racing Specific Geometry, HM High Modulus Modular Carbon Fibre Frame with 3K Finish, Forged Dropout & Replaceable Hanger
Fork: Felt 1.4 HM High Modulus Carbon Design with 3K Finish, Carbon Blades, Crown & 1 1/8 Steerer, Aluminium Dropouts with Felt Compression Device
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105 braze-on, double
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105 SS Short Cage
Shifters: Shimano 105 STI, 20-Speed
Chainset: Shimano 105 Compact, 50/34T; 51cm=170mm, 54cm-56cm=172.5cm, 58cm-61cm=175mm
Chainrings: 50/34Teeth
Bottom Bracket: Shimano 105 Hollowtech-II
Cassette: Shimano 10-Speed Cassette, 11-25Teeth
Chain: Shimano 10-Speed
Front Brake: Shimano 105 Super SLR Dual Pivot with Cartridge Brake Shoes
Rear Brake: Shimano 105 Super SLR Dual Pivot with Cartridge Brake Shoes
Brake Levers: Shimano 105 STI
Handlebars: Felt 2.3 6061 Aluminium with Relaxed Racing Specific Ergonomic Drop, 31.8mm, 51cm=400mm, 54cm-56cm=420mm, 58cm-61cm=440mm
Stem: Felt 2.1 Adjustable 6061 3D Forged 31.8mm with +/-(6 or 14) Degree Rise, 51cm=80mm, 54cm=90mm, 56cm=100mm, 58cm-61cm=110mm
Headset: FSA 1 1/8 Integrated with 20mm Cone & 3 X 7.5mm Spacer Stack
Grips: Felt Gel Ribbon Cork Tape with Felt 3D Logo
Rims: MAVIC CXP-22N Aluminium Rim with Machined UB Control Braking Surface & Wear Indicator laced 3-Cross Rear, Radial 0-Cross Front
Front Hub: Felt Sealed Forged Aluminium with Quick Release, 32Hole
Rear Hub: Felt Forged Aluminium Sealed Shimano 10, 9, or 8 speed Compatible Cassette with Quick Release, 32H
Spokes: Stainless Steel with Red alloy spoke nipples
Front Tyre: Vittoria Zaffiro Foldable 700c x 25c
Rear Tyre: Vittoria Zaffiro Foldable 700c x 25c
Saddle: Felt 2.2 Anatomic Road Saddle with D2 Double-Density Base, Custom Embossed Cover & Hollow Cr-Mo Rails
Seatpost: Felt 1.2 Carbon Fibre Design, 27.2mm, 315mm
Seat Binder: 30.6 6061-AL Forged Aluminium, Cr-Mo 5mm x 0.8mm Bolt, Stainless Steel Nut-Bar. 16 Grams
5- KOGA CARBON TEAM EDITION - 1.999 € - 7.9 kg
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-koga-carbon-team-edition-ultegra.jpg
Frame description: Lightweight FEM optimized carbon frame. Built with HighTech carbon fiber and finished with a 12k carbonfiber mesh. Equipped with integrated headset and a replaceable rear derailleur hanger.
Front fork: Koga - Carbon 12k woven/Alloy
Head set: Ritchey Zero Pro Road Drop industrial bearing - Integrated in frame
Color: Visible carbon 12K/Pearl white/Koga blue metallic
Handlebar: Pro PLT Oversized alloy - Double Butted and Anatomic shape - Sand Blasted Black color
Stem: Pro PLT alloy - Sand Blasted Black color
Handlebar tape: Koga Duratape
Brake (front): Shimano Ultegra
Brake (rear): Shimano Ultegra
Shift/Brake levers:Shimano Ultegra
Brake cable: Stainless steel inner cable -Flexible outer cable with teflon tube for light braking
Shifter cable: Stainless steel inner cable -Flexible outer cable with teflon tube for light shifting
Chain: Shimano Ultegra
Wheel set: Koga 2pRace1800 - White DT Competition double butted spokes - Red anodized nipples - Sealed Industrial Bearings
Tyres: Michelin Krylion carbon 23mm - Foldable - Red/Black color
Tube: Vredestein 18/25-622 50 mm valve
Saddle: Selle Italia XR
Seat pillar: Pro PLT ø31,6x280mm alloy - Sand Blasted Black color
Seatclamp: Koga alloy
Crank set: Shimano Ultegra Hollowtech II - UltraLightweight Hollowglide outer ring - Smooth and precise shifting: 50x34T
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 10 speed - Hyperglide for quick and smooth shifting - Sprockets: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25T
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra
Pump: Koga with alloy barrel - Schrader and Presta fit - High Pressure - Ergonomic hinge grip
Bottle: Tacx Source Solid - Easy refill
Bottle holder: Elite Pase
Hemen değil, ama yakında yol bisikletimi yenileme düşüncem var. Şu anda bu forumdan aldığım '95 model, Japon malı bir Koga-Miyata kullanıyorum. cromoly gövde, Sora sti kollu, tiagra arka ve orta vitesli, campag aynakollu ve frenli, Shimano whr-50 jantlı... ilk yol bisikletim ve ona oldukça alıştım. Ağır ama sürüşü oldukça zevkli ve güvenli. Aerobar olmadan 70.2 km'ye kadar çıktığım oldu.
Bisikletin benim için geçici bir heves olup olmadığından emin olmak için sıfır yerine 2. el almaya karar vermiştim. İstediğim sıklıkta olmasa da 1 yıldan fazla süredir kullanıyorum ve yakında onunla bir triatlona katılmayı düşünüyorum.
İşte o triatlondan sonra kendime yeni bir bisiklet almaya hak kazanacağım, kendimce öyle bir ön şart koşmuştum uzun süre önce.
Düşüncem ve arzum, aluminyum kadroyu es geçip ulaşılabilir bir karbon kadrolu bisiklet almak. Doğrusu aluminyum kadroyla vakit geçirmeden karbon dünyasına biran evvel adım atmak istiyorum.
Bu kararıma da emektar bisikletimin yeni modelleri neden oldu. KOGA'nın bir modeli, avrupadaki fiyatıyla zor da olsa ulaşılabilir gözüktü. Sonrasında net'te hakkında yorumlar ararken hemen hemen aynı fiyatlarda 4 alternatif daha ortaya çıktı.
Tecrübeli bisikletçi dostlara sormak isterim:
- KOGA bisikletler hakkında tecrübesi olan var mı? Aşağıda resmini ve modelini vereceğim KOGA hakkında ne düşünürsünüz? Şu anda da Koga kullandığımdan duygusal olarak ona daha yakınım ama gerçekçi yorumlarınıza da ihtiyacım var.
- Siz bu bisikletlerden hangisini tercih ederdiniz?
1- TREK MADONE 4.5T - 1.965 € - 8,5kg.
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-trek-madone-4-5t.jpg
Brakes: Shimano Tiagra w/ Shimano 105 STI Levers
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano 105 12-27, 10 speed
Crankset: Shimano R-553 50/39/30Â Â
Forks: Bontrager Race Lite, Carbon w/ E2 Aluminum Steerer
Frame: TCT Carbon, DuoTrap Compatible
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105
Gear Levers: Shimano 105 STI, 10 speed
Handlebar: Bontrager SSR VR, 31.8mm
Headset: Aheadset w/ cartridge bearings, integrated, sealed, alloy, 1.5" Bottom
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Saddle: Bontrager Inform R1
Seat Post: Bontrager Carbon
Stem: Bontrager Race Lite, 7degree, 31.8mm
Tyres: Bontrager Race Lite 700x23c
Wheels: Bontrager SSR
2- SPECIALIZED ROUBAIX ELITE - 2.055 € - 8,94 kg (56cm)
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-specialized-roubaix-elite.jpg
Frame: Specialized Roubaix FACT 7r carbon, triple monocoque construction, compact race design with Zertz inserts
Fork: Roubaix full carbon monocoque, with Zertz inserts
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105
Shifters: Shimano 105 STI, flight deck compatible
Chainset: Shimano FC-R600
Chainrings: 50/34 tooth chainrings
Bottom Bracket: With Crankset
Cassette: Shimano 105 10-speed, 12-27 tooth range
Chain: KMC X10 CP
Pedals: Silver cage/black body, with black toe clips and strap
Front Brake: Arch design, cold forged dual pivot with cartridge pads
Rear Brake: Arch design, cold forged dual pivot with cartridge pads
Brake Levers: Shimano 105 STI, flight deck compatible
Handlebars: Specialized Comp Ergo, 6061 alloy
Stem: Specialized Comp-Set, 3D forged alloy, 4-position adjustable, 4-bolt 31.8mm clamp
Headset: Alloy, 1-1/8 - 1-3/8 inch, with 20mm of spacers
Grips: Specialized S-Wrap, cork ribbon with 2.5 gel pads
Rims: Mavic CXP-22 S, aluminium triple-wall, sleeve joint, CNC machined sidewalls, with eyelets
Front Hub: Forged alloy, sealed, 28h for J bend round spokes
Rear Hub: Forged alloy, sealed for J bend round spokes, 32h
Spokes: Stainless 14g
Front Tyre: Specialized Roubaix Pro II, 700x23c, Kevlar bead, 120TPI, with Flak Jacket protection
Rear Tyre: Specialized Roubaix Pro II, 700x23c, Kevlar bead, 120TPI, with Flak Jacket protection
Tubes: Standard presta valve
Saddle: Body Geometry Avatar Gel with hollow Cr-Mo rails
Seatpost: Specialized Comp, FACT carbon with Zertz insert, aluminium head, two-bolt clamp, 27.2mm
Seat Binder: Alloy, 32.6mm clamp
Accessories: Carbon chain stay protector, derailleur hanger, clear coat, owners manual
3- CUBE AGREE GTC PRO - 1.935 € - 7.9kg
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-cube-agree-gtc-pro.jpg
Brakes: FSA Gossamer
Cassette/Freewheel: Shimano Ultegra CS-6700 11-28, 10-speed
Chain: Shimano Ultegra CN-6700
Crankset: FSA Gossamer Pro Megaexo 53x39, Press-Fit BB
Forks: Easton EC70 SL CNT Carbon 1 1/8“ - 1 1/2“
Frame: GTC Monocoque Advanced Twin Mold Technology
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6700BL 2-speed, Clamp 34.9mm
Gear Levers: Shimano Ultegra ST-6700, 10-speed
Handlebar: FSA Wing Compact Oversized
Headset: FSA Orbit I-T
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra RD-6700SS
Saddle: RFR Natural Shape 0.1 R
Seat Clamp: Scape Close 34.9mm
Seat Post: FSA SL280 31.6mm
Stem: FSA OS190 Oversized
Tape/Grips: CUBE Grip Control
Tubes: Impac RR SV15
Tyres: Schwalbe Ultremo 23x622
Wheels: Fulcrum Racing 7
4- FELT Z5 - 1.995 € - 8,25kg (56cm)
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-felt-z5.jpg
Frame: Felt Classic Racing Specific Geometry, HM High Modulus Modular Carbon Fibre Frame with 3K Finish, Forged Dropout & Replaceable Hanger
Fork: Felt 1.4 HM High Modulus Carbon Design with 3K Finish, Carbon Blades, Crown & 1 1/8 Steerer, Aluminium Dropouts with Felt Compression Device
Front Derailleur: Shimano 105 braze-on, double
Rear Derailleur: Shimano 105 SS Short Cage
Shifters: Shimano 105 STI, 20-Speed
Chainset: Shimano 105 Compact, 50/34T; 51cm=170mm, 54cm-56cm=172.5cm, 58cm-61cm=175mm
Chainrings: 50/34Teeth
Bottom Bracket: Shimano 105 Hollowtech-II
Cassette: Shimano 10-Speed Cassette, 11-25Teeth
Chain: Shimano 10-Speed
Front Brake: Shimano 105 Super SLR Dual Pivot with Cartridge Brake Shoes
Rear Brake: Shimano 105 Super SLR Dual Pivot with Cartridge Brake Shoes
Brake Levers: Shimano 105 STI
Handlebars: Felt 2.3 6061 Aluminium with Relaxed Racing Specific Ergonomic Drop, 31.8mm, 51cm=400mm, 54cm-56cm=420mm, 58cm-61cm=440mm
Stem: Felt 2.1 Adjustable 6061 3D Forged 31.8mm with +/-(6 or 14) Degree Rise, 51cm=80mm, 54cm=90mm, 56cm=100mm, 58cm-61cm=110mm
Headset: FSA 1 1/8 Integrated with 20mm Cone & 3 X 7.5mm Spacer Stack
Grips: Felt Gel Ribbon Cork Tape with Felt 3D Logo
Rims: MAVIC CXP-22N Aluminium Rim with Machined UB Control Braking Surface & Wear Indicator laced 3-Cross Rear, Radial 0-Cross Front
Front Hub: Felt Sealed Forged Aluminium with Quick Release, 32Hole
Rear Hub: Felt Forged Aluminium Sealed Shimano 10, 9, or 8 speed Compatible Cassette with Quick Release, 32H
Spokes: Stainless Steel with Red alloy spoke nipples
Front Tyre: Vittoria Zaffiro Foldable 700c x 25c
Rear Tyre: Vittoria Zaffiro Foldable 700c x 25c
Saddle: Felt 2.2 Anatomic Road Saddle with D2 Double-Density Base, Custom Embossed Cover & Hollow Cr-Mo Rails
Seatpost: Felt 1.2 Carbon Fibre Design, 27.2mm, 315mm
Seat Binder: 30.6 6061-AL Forged Aluminium, Cr-Mo 5mm x 0.8mm Bolt, Stainless Steel Nut-Bar. 16 Grams
5- KOGA CARBON TEAM EDITION - 1.999 € - 7.9 kg
http://hareketegec.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-koga-carbon-team-edition-ultegra.jpg
Frame description: Lightweight FEM optimized carbon frame. Built with HighTech carbon fiber and finished with a 12k carbonfiber mesh. Equipped with integrated headset and a replaceable rear derailleur hanger.
Front fork: Koga - Carbon 12k woven/Alloy
Head set: Ritchey Zero Pro Road Drop industrial bearing - Integrated in frame
Color: Visible carbon 12K/Pearl white/Koga blue metallic
Handlebar: Pro PLT Oversized alloy - Double Butted and Anatomic shape - Sand Blasted Black color
Stem: Pro PLT alloy - Sand Blasted Black color
Handlebar tape: Koga Duratape
Brake (front): Shimano Ultegra
Brake (rear): Shimano Ultegra
Shift/Brake levers:Shimano Ultegra
Brake cable: Stainless steel inner cable -Flexible outer cable with teflon tube for light braking
Shifter cable: Stainless steel inner cable -Flexible outer cable with teflon tube for light shifting
Chain: Shimano Ultegra
Wheel set: Koga 2pRace1800 - White DT Competition double butted spokes - Red anodized nipples - Sealed Industrial Bearings
Tyres: Michelin Krylion carbon 23mm - Foldable - Red/Black color
Tube: Vredestein 18/25-622 50 mm valve
Saddle: Selle Italia XR
Seat pillar: Pro PLT ø31,6x280mm alloy - Sand Blasted Black color
Seatclamp: Koga alloy
Crank set: Shimano Ultegra Hollowtech II - UltraLightweight Hollowglide outer ring - Smooth and precise shifting: 50x34T
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 10 speed - Hyperglide for quick and smooth shifting - Sprockets: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25T
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra
Pump: Koga with alloy barrel - Schrader and Presta fit - High Pressure - Ergonomic hinge grip
Bottle: Tacx Source Solid - Easy refill
Bottle holder: Elite Pase


